Montana Fentanyl and Meth. Mexican Drug Cartel Focus.

[Sytes]

EDIT: Stay off the Border issue. This is in a Place For Friends... OFF TOPIC sub forum. About mitigating the issue IN Montana.
How to counter the issue focused on the complexities of sovereign tribal nations and the consequences of tribal and spill over off tribal land.

Sure, place your reports to Randy though again, this is not Political NOR border based... If you can't manage your ability to not open / post in a topic you don't personally find off topic notable... Report away...

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Epicenter for disaster. Prime locations for Cartel focus:

The U.S. challenge?... The Montana challenge?... The Tribal Challenge?...

“When we don’t have the boots on the ground and people aren’t being held accountable, it really becomes the Wild, Wild West,” said Laslovich, the U.S. attorney. “I think you see that in Indian Country, here in Montana, more than we should.”

Complicating matters further, the reservations are sovereign nations where local law enforcement is restricted from operating without an agreement with the tribe. Even when agreements are in place, local and state authorities are often barred from arresting tribal members. And the tribal police officers are largely prohibited from arresting outsiders on the reservation.

It adds up to a jurisdictional maze that hampers crime fighting at a time when drugs are ravaging Indian communities, current and former law enforcement officials say."

Mexican drug cartels are targeting America’s ‘last best place’

Cartel associates have flooded Montana with fentanyl and meth – and also set up operations on Indian reservations, where law enforcement is scarce.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[FAIR CHASE]

How many of you conceal?

Watching that other thread and I'm curious. My CCW is expired by a couple years now, looking to re up it here soon. Probably won't carry that much, but I used to carry a lot. Thread might get locked at some point. But it doesn't have to.

www.hunttalk.com

 

[FI460]

"And the tribal police officers are largely prohibited from arresting outsiders on the reservation."

Is this accurate? What precludes them from arresting outsiders? Tribal policy or some agreement with the state perhaps?

 

[Forkyfinder]

Another exhibit on how and why the "sovereign nation" experiment has failed.

 

[Forkyfinder]

Is this accurate? What precludes them from arresting outsiders? Tribal policy or some agreement with the state perhaps?

"Tribes have inherent authority to exercise criminal jurisdiction over tribal members and to arrest and detain non-Indians for delivery to state or federal authorities for prosecution. "

Tribal Law Enforcement

Statistical information and publications about tribal law enforcement in the United States from the Bureau of Justice Statistics.

bjs.ojp.gov

Looks like they can't file charges, but they arrest/detain can refer them to other agencies.

 

[gouch]

Another exhibit on how and why the "sovereign nation" experiment has failed.

Another exhibit on how the war on drugs has failed. We have been doing the same thing, in the same way, for 53 years. Inexplicitly, we haven't had any different results.

 

[TheTone]

Is this accurate? What precludes them from arresting outsiders? Tribal policy or some agreement with the state perhaps?

Jurisdiction most likely. The tribal officers closest to me are not state certified and thus only have jurisdiction over tribal members. Basically all they can do if they’re involved with a non member is ask for another agency to help them

I have often wondered if tribal members wouldn’t be better served with dissolving the reservation system.

 

[LIK2HNT]

The drug problem has been out of hand for quit awhile. Now it is way beyond. To many crooked people making money off this.

 

[cgasner1]

The entire thing is a mess. My dad was asking me about getting the permits to coyote hunt some of it. No thanks I don’t wanna be anywhere near any of those reservations.

 

[elkantlers]

EDIT: Stay off the Border issue.

How can you have an honest discussion without bringing up one of the root causes of the problem.
It shouldn't be political to say where the majority of the drugs originate, or how they get to our streets.

 

[BuzzH]

The root problem is the demand for it.

 

[Doublecluck]

Few people realize the depths the tentacles of these criminal organizations go. America’s political, institutional and cultural realities are soft and easy targets for these people. Protect yours and your own is the only answer. The system is not capable of protecting you, and there is no solution that the American people could stomach.

 

[Ben Lamb]

Illicit Fentanyl and Drug Smuggling at the U.S.-Mexico Border: An Overview

The United States faces a growing challenge related to illicit fentanyl. As the challenge grows, the conversation often turns to drug smuggling into the U.S. and how the situation at the U.S.-Mexico border enhances the problem. Illicit fentanyl has devastating impacts across all corners of the...

immigrationforum.org

 

[Straight Arrow]

It shouldn't be political

Nope. It's not the fault of Pres Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, or Biden. It isn't the fault of any one political party, but it is the fault of Congress for not coming up with solutions to mitigate the demand problem, to "fix the border" crisis, and to figure out how to support and assist those sovereign tribal reservations in mitigating their many problems.
Congress has sadly failed for so long in dealling with so many internal problems, I think mainly because we keep electing ideologically driven wealthy silver-spoon candidates who really can't even relate to making life choices regarding basics of everyday life or to tragic human issues. They've never had to. A private jet flight and tour of the border or a third world nation for three days is a joke and a waste of time and resources for those "leaders"(?)!

 

[elkantlers]

The root problem is the demand for it.

Demand is a root problem, but without supply the demand goes unfulfilled. My increasing amount of bonus points proves my point.

 

[Forkyfinder]

The root problem is the demand for it.

Not sure if the demand can be figured out. Solutions for the reservation issue are pretty limited - but the issue is concentrated there by a lack of effective law enforcement. The cause of that is the broken soverign nation model.

Seperately, dismantling that disaster would do a lot for wildlife too.

 

[BuzzH]

Demand is a root problem, but without supply the demand goes unfulfilled. My increasing amount of bonus points proves my point.

Without demand there is no supply...some savvy that, others don't.

 

[SAJ-99]

Auto deaths are #1 cause of death and lack of seatbelt use on the Rez is a problem. You can't fix that I don't see how you can work on drugs.

Tribal Road Safety: Get the Facts | Transportation Safety | Injury Center | CDC

www.cdc.gov

 

[HappyCamper]

The Feds have a substantial presence on the reservations to which makes the sovereign excuse a bad one. The problem is action is rarely taken and when it is, it’s not effective. So much money is thrown at this issue without any real diversion. Arrest and seize just enough to justify their positions as the issue escalates.

 

[CRJR45]

Legalize all drugs , that's the only answer . Stop putting stupid people in jail for dumb shit , like doing drugs . If someone chooses to be a druggie , oh well , it's their life to waste . I'll be minding my own business