It’s a 5-point Mule Deer, change my mind

[Ought Six]

Is calling a mule deer buck that has a main beam plus its G1-G4 a “4-point with browtines”, or especially just calling it a straight “4-point,” not one of the dumbest things you’ve ever heard? Please change my mind.

 

[JLS]

I call it neck roasts.

 

[Keep on]

When I get my call from MT, they ask me how many points not counting eye guards. Just figured that's the way they count them out West.

 

[Ought Six]

When I get my call from MT, they ask me how many points not counting eye guards. Just figured that's the way they count them out West.

I think there’s a whole thread regarding the intelligence of Montana’s game agency, I wouldn’t take anything they tell you as gospel

 

[Beignet]

That is an old warrior trophy buck ‘round these parts.

 

[Art Vandeley]

The biggest buck in eastern MT

 

[The Hedgehog]

Straight typical muleys are referred to at 4 points, regardless of eye guards. B&C counts all measurable points

 

[Dan O]

If I'm not mistaken any point 1 inch or longer is a scoreable point according to the B&C and P&Y clubs. So, if it's longer than an inch count it.

 

[ploxwithblox]

If I'm not mistaken any point 1 inch or longer is a scoreable point according to the B&C and P&Y clubs. So, if it's longer than an inch count it.

I've always figured this would be the most sensible way to settle the argument. Where did the argument about eyeguards even came from in the first place? Anyone know? I'm genuinely curious.

 

[Ought Six]

I've always figured this would be the most sensible way to settle the argument. Where did the argument about eyeguards even came from in the first place? Anyone know? I'm genuinely curious.

I’m curious about that too. Why wouldn’t you count them when describing a deer? The difference between a deer with or without eyeguards can be the difference between B&C and not B&C for a majority of typical mule deer. Maybe @Hopzone Freak knows?

 

[Hammsolo]

Growing up in Anacompton we didn’t see any of these often. However, in spite of our subpar educational system we would say both and in the following order. He’s a 5 by 5, or a 4 by 4 with eye guards.

Oh, and we really got jealous when someone killed a 6 by 6 bull, or a 5 by 5 with brow tines bull! It’d really get confusing with moose…

Oh, and bear too… Does that bear square 6.5 feet or is that a 6 foot bear with paws n’ claws was a common argument.

 

[TheTone]

How about a mule deer with a typical four point frame but dual eyeguards on each side. 6 pt?

 

[Ought Six]

How about a mule deer with a typical four point frame but dual eyeguards on each side. 6 pt?

6 by 6

 

[Ought Six]

Growing up in Anacompton we didn’t see any of these often. However, in spite of our subpar educational system we would say both and in the following order. He’s a 5 by 5, or a 4 by 4 with eye guards.

Oh, and we really got jealous when someone killed a 6 by 6 bull, or a 5 by 5 with brow tines bull! It’d really get confusing with moose…

Oh, and bear too… Does that bear square 6.5 feet or is that a 6 foot bear with paws n’ claws was a common argument.

Yeah I grew up with either 5-point or 5 by 5 as well, any oddities resorted to the by system with 5 by 7 or 3 by 6 etc

 

[Hammsolo]

What about mountain whitetails HeartbeatofAmericaFreak?

Or even more confusing what if it is one of them thar cross breadin’ hybrids?

 

[2rocky]

Mule deer and blacktails get called by what their main frame is. Eye guards are a bonus and counted as such.

 

[EYJONAS!]

Are you a transplant or a resident that's the real question

 

[JLS]

What about mountain whitetails HeartbeatofAmericaFreak?

Or even more confusing what if it is one of them thar cross breadin’ hybrids?

Are you pre sampling pain meds?

 

[Bullshot]

Don’t shoot! The eyeguards (uhhh BROW TINES) will make him too hard to describe. Hold out for something simpler!

 

[EYJONAS!]

Don’t shoot! The eyeguards (uhhh BROW TINES) will make him too hard to describe. Hold out for something simpler!

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Brow tines are on elk. Case closed.