I know savages dont get a lot of love on this forum but Take a look at the savage model 110 lightweight storm with adjustable lenght of pull, listed at 5.6 lbs. Every savage i ever owned shot lights out with factory ammoYeah I'll be waiting for a new alpine rifle from Randy for sure. But, right now looking for a rifle for my son and roughly 8.5lbs with a scope is a little much for him. I mean my rifle is 6lbs scoped and loaded, I was looking at a tikka or a model 7 basically a 6.5lbs bare rifle.