Dinkshooter
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Welfare ranching defended with Fatassed ATVer pictures, it could get epic here real quick.
Grazing cattle on public land
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bjtc_brian
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Dinkshooter
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That ain't CowboyMama!
That ain't CowboyMama!
shoots-straight
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I think most of the poster here are missing the bigger picture. The Ranching community has elements in it, that are responsible for our lousy wildlife picture. If your a Rancher, and don't have a problem with feed some wildlife them say so. Get involved with your own peers, and change the fight. We should be on the same side.
Ranchers should:
1) Give up on trying to privatize our wildlife resource.
2).Allow for a balanced amount of wildlife, and recognize that they lived here long before ranching.
3). Stop the repeated attacks against wildlife because of fear of competition. Shooter doesn't care about producers that get subsides, but I will go out on a limb and guess he's totally against Bison.
4). Stop trying to control where we sportsman spend our money. If we saved up to purchase ranches for wildlife habitat, and to hunt on then that's the American way. Get over it.
5). Quite trying to control our Fish & Game department, do you see us trying to legislate the Dept. of livestock?
Ranchers should:
1) Give up on trying to privatize our wildlife resource.
2).Allow for a balanced amount of wildlife, and recognize that they lived here long before ranching.
3). Stop the repeated attacks against wildlife because of fear of competition. Shooter doesn't care about producers that get subsides, but I will go out on a limb and guess he's totally against Bison.
4). Stop trying to control where we sportsman spend our money. If we saved up to purchase ranches for wildlife habitat, and to hunt on then that's the American way. Get over it.
5). Quite trying to control our Fish & Game department, do you see us trying to legislate the Dept. of livestock?
sweetnectar
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bjtc brian owns this thread!
PS- Thanks for putting own in quotation marks as one does not own a permit, they might have preference for one though...
Ah the timing. I was at RMP/cooperators meeting today discussing LWC's and new sage-grouse guidance. After the meeting one of the county commisioners stopped me and told me how good the wildlife habitat is "on the BLM he owns". I am sure he knows better, but interesting how some folks view a permit.
noharleyyet
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Just cause you asked.
Sure beats the sheit out of more cowbell.
....she must be from Texas.
mtlion
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Ah the timing. I was at RMP/cooperators meeting today discussing LWC's and new sage-grouse guidance. After the meeting one of the county commisioners stopped me and told me how good the wildlife habitat is "on the BLM he owns". I am sure he knows better, but interesting how some folks view a permit.
I've run into this before it makes me sick. Many in Central MT think they own state sections they lease and will try to run you off. I've seen it with state and BLM out East as well.
JoseCuervo
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Ah the timing. I was at RMP/cooperators meeting today discussing LWC's and new sage-grouse guidance. After the meeting one of the county commisioners stopped me and told me how good the wildlife habitat is "on the BLM he owns". I am sure he knows better, but interesting how some folks view a permit.
Sometimes it is almost like the line between deeded and leased is blurred...
sweetnectar
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I'm a welfare hunter and rancher. Am I going to hell?
shoots-straight
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CLASSIC line right there. You guys wanting cows off PUBLIC land are no different than the fat-assed ATVers wanting every friggin trail open to them year round; or the wolf-huggin nature purists that want not hunting on public grounds; or the log/mine every acre crowd....... At least the rancher PAYS something for his use. And before you come back with that tired-assed "I'm a taxpayer, so I pay to use this land" line, SO IS THE RANCHER!
Also, a profit doen't have to be made by someone for them receive a subsidy.
One more thing, Shoots Straight, you have got to be about the dumbest son of a bitch posting on the internet.
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BuzzH
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Hittin' the bottle early tonight are we?
Call the govt. agency in charge of managing the area and tell them to get their ass off the internet and go out and do their job.
Now that you mention it, a cold beer sounds pretty good right about now!
the way to fix that is for the state to issue cow tags,and allow people to hunt them on public land on october 1 of every year,and if they charge say 50.00 a tag.
i guarrantee if that happend,the ranchers would not have there cows on public land,while us hunters are out hunting.
and if these ranchers would allow us hunters to hunt on there land,and not charge a hunter a arm and a leg to do so,then they would have less of a problem with wild ammimals eating there feed,and wild ammimals harming there livestock.
i guarrantee if that happend,the ranchers would not have there cows on public land,while us hunters are out hunting.
and if these ranchers would allow us hunters to hunt on there land,and not charge a hunter a arm and a leg to do so,then they would have less of a problem with wild ammimals eating there feed,and wild ammimals harming there livestock.
shoots-straight
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Brilliant commentary! Did you come up with that all by yourself? Lets analyze your BS comment and try to make some sense of it..
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Lets see, I'm not really sure how to answer that, but here goes. I'm not totally against running cattle on my public lands. I'm not sure how keeping cattle off lands is the same as ATV's keeping every trail open. But if your wanting my elk reduced to run more cattle, then yes, get your friggin cattle off my land. Is that hard for you to understand. To complicated maybe. If you belong to the MSGA, then you belong to a group of people that are attacking sportsman on just about every front. Are you?
Cowboy you should of used that analogy in reverse. Lets try something that makes some sense.
Cattle and ATV's what do they have in common? They both spread weeds, and tear the chit out of things. They both pass lots of gas, they both don't pay for the damage they do. My elk try to avoid each of them.
The rest of tirade makes no sense. Try again Einstein!
After this whole post you've got the ordasity to call me out? Laffin!
You could use some help. Check this out jm
http://youtu.be/nl5gBJGnaXs
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bjtc_brian
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I know how to fix this agrument!
