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I wonder if they'll get to use bait?
http://espn.go.com/outdoors/conservation/news/2003/0523/1558302.html
http://espn.go.com/outdoors/conservation/news/2003/0523/1558302.html
Bear huntin' in Jersey?
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Whiskers
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WE probably won't be allowed to hunt em at all. Let alone bait. Even if they pass it some bleeding heart judge at the last minute will put it on hold.
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BigHornyRam
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Shit Wiskers,
You got liberal judges back east too?
Paul
You got liberal judges back east too?
Paul
Whiskers
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I heard there may be one hiding up in Northern New Jersey!! LOL. But you watch, we have Fish and Game catching an destroying Turkeys cause they run in the road. Or people stop and look and get rearended. If you caught them, why not relocate them. The answer, is they have become all most domesticated, and will always be a problem. They were hanging out at an old womans house that used to feed em. Then they go south of here catch 16 more turkeys and relocate them to almost where the ones they destroyed were at.
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Ten Bears
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Good report. Whiskers, you were stuttering. It didn't say if he bit the bear back though.
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http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk1JmZnYmVsN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk2Mzg4NDM4JnlyaXJ5N2Y3MTdmN3ZxZWVFRXl5Mw==
Another horror story about PROTECTED BEARS!
Another horror story about PROTECTED BEARS!
Whiskers
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Another one. Thats two home invasions of occupied homes in two weeks.
http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/jersey/index.ssf?/base/news-3/105539953559010.xml
http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/jersey/index.ssf?/base/news-3/105539953559010.xml
Ithaca 37
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I wonder how many bears have to get into houses before attitudes about controlling bear numbers start changing.
Whiskers
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Just an update on bears breaking in. They have the same rights as burglars. You have to leave your home.
Bear shooter gets $300 summons
Friday, June 13, 2003
By RICHARD COWEN
STAFF WRITER
State wildlife officials on Thursday sent a message to anyone thinking about shooting black bears that pose a nuisance.
Don't.
The state Division of Fish and Wildlife slapped Patrick Flynn of West Milford with a summons for shooting a bear, which had tried to come in through the kitchen door as his wife cooked dinner on June 6. In the initial commotion, the bear retreated to the yard, and Flynn grabbed his shotgun and fired, badly wounding the animal.
State wildlife officers found the bear in the woods the next day and killed it.
Flynn notified the police about the incident and said he shot the bear as a last resort to defend his wife, his 2-year-old daughter, and himself. But based on an autopsy that found the bear had been shot from behind, the state charged Flynn with injuring a bear, a civil offense. If convicted in Municipal Court, he faces a fine of up to $300.
State law allows people to shoot black bears, a protected species, if they pose an "imminent threat" - usually defined by the state as acting aggressively within 10 feet of a human. An issue in this case is whether the bear posed a threat or just a nuisance.
Although the fine is relatively small, the stakes are high for man and beast. There have been several dangerous encounters this spring - and the state is concerned that people are beginning to take matters into their own hands.
Bradley Campbell, the commissioner of the state Department of Environmental Protection, issued a statement on Thursday to remind residents that bears are a protected species - at least for now.
"Communities need to understand that shooting a bear is unlawful," Campbell said. "While there will be circumstances in which an immediate threat to safety would excuse a killing, that justification is not presented by the facts in this case."
A necropsy of the bear by the Division of Fish and Wildlife showed that the bear was shot in the rear at a range of about 15 yards, suggesting that the animal was retreating from the house, the DEP said.
Flynn would not comment. His wife, however, said the bear was only about 15 feet from the house when her husband fired at it - and that the bear looked as if it was about to make another charge for the door.
"He had turned his head back around and looked like he was headed back toward my husband," said Kristine Flynn. The house is on Kushaqua Trail North in the hills just above Greenwood Lake, a resort area where many of the summer log cabins have been converted to year-round use. Bears come into the Flynns' yard two or three times a day, she said.
She said that shortly before noon on Thursday, she was minding their daughter Samantha when a Fish and Wildlife officer knocked on the door. Besides handing her the summons, the officer set up a barrel bear trap in her driveway.
Exasperated, she took the summons and called her husband at work.
"What we did was a judgment call on our part," she said. "I guess the next time it happens, we're supposed to wait for the bear to break the door down."
That's what had happened in the Highland Lakes section of Vernon on Wednesday. A 200-pound black bear broke through a screen door and began ransacking a family's kitchen looking for food. Lisa Spirko grabbed her two children, ages 2 and 7, and ran for a bedroom, where she barricaded the door and called the police.
Vernon police arrived and helped the family climb out a window. Police and a Division of Fish and Wildlife biologist then shot the bear dead after he climbed out a dining room window.
Spirko said the police did the right thing.
"We were trapped in the bedroom and there was no telling what that bear would do," she said. "People say bears aren't supposed to come into your house, but this one did. I think the police were justified in doing what they did."
Spirko said she doesn't have any guns in her house, but she supported the action that Flynn had taken.
"I totally understand what he did," she said. "He was protecting his family."
The DEP says Spirko handled the her bear encounter the right way.
"The mother did the right thing," said Jack Kaskey, spokesman for the DEP. "She called the police."
The state estimates as many as 3,200 black bears live in New Jersey. It has proposed a one-week hunt in December to thin the population. Opponents of the hunt say there's no need to slaughter bears if people learned to live among them and keep garbage out of reach of scavenging bears.
Although recent events suggest that bears are becoming more aggressive, state records show a drop in the number of dangerous encounters from a year ago.
As of June 3, there had been 48 "Category 1" incidents - encounters in which bears either came within 10 feet of a human, caused property damage, or posed a threat to pets or livestock. Last year at this time, there had been 94 Category 1 incidents.
The state attributes the decline to the harsh winter, which kept bears in their dens longer than usual.
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Bear shooter gets $300 summons
Friday, June 13, 2003
By RICHARD COWEN
STAFF WRITER
State wildlife officials on Thursday sent a message to anyone thinking about shooting black bears that pose a nuisance.
Don't.
The state Division of Fish and Wildlife slapped Patrick Flynn of West Milford with a summons for shooting a bear, which had tried to come in through the kitchen door as his wife cooked dinner on June 6. In the initial commotion, the bear retreated to the yard, and Flynn grabbed his shotgun and fired, badly wounding the animal.
State wildlife officers found the bear in the woods the next day and killed it.
Flynn notified the police about the incident and said he shot the bear as a last resort to defend his wife, his 2-year-old daughter, and himself. But based on an autopsy that found the bear had been shot from behind, the state charged Flynn with injuring a bear, a civil offense. If convicted in Municipal Court, he faces a fine of up to $300.
State law allows people to shoot black bears, a protected species, if they pose an "imminent threat" - usually defined by the state as acting aggressively within 10 feet of a human. An issue in this case is whether the bear posed a threat or just a nuisance.
Although the fine is relatively small, the stakes are high for man and beast. There have been several dangerous encounters this spring - and the state is concerned that people are beginning to take matters into their own hands.
Bradley Campbell, the commissioner of the state Department of Environmental Protection, issued a statement on Thursday to remind residents that bears are a protected species - at least for now.
"Communities need to understand that shooting a bear is unlawful," Campbell said. "While there will be circumstances in which an immediate threat to safety would excuse a killing, that justification is not presented by the facts in this case."
A necropsy of the bear by the Division of Fish and Wildlife showed that the bear was shot in the rear at a range of about 15 yards, suggesting that the animal was retreating from the house, the DEP said.
Flynn would not comment. His wife, however, said the bear was only about 15 feet from the house when her husband fired at it - and that the bear looked as if it was about to make another charge for the door.
"He had turned his head back around and looked like he was headed back toward my husband," said Kristine Flynn. The house is on Kushaqua Trail North in the hills just above Greenwood Lake, a resort area where many of the summer log cabins have been converted to year-round use. Bears come into the Flynns' yard two or three times a day, she said.
She said that shortly before noon on Thursday, she was minding their daughter Samantha when a Fish and Wildlife officer knocked on the door. Besides handing her the summons, the officer set up a barrel bear trap in her driveway.
Exasperated, she took the summons and called her husband at work.
"What we did was a judgment call on our part," she said. "I guess the next time it happens, we're supposed to wait for the bear to break the door down."
That's what had happened in the Highland Lakes section of Vernon on Wednesday. A 200-pound black bear broke through a screen door and began ransacking a family's kitchen looking for food. Lisa Spirko grabbed her two children, ages 2 and 7, and ran for a bedroom, where she barricaded the door and called the police.
Vernon police arrived and helped the family climb out a window. Police and a Division of Fish and Wildlife biologist then shot the bear dead after he climbed out a dining room window.
Spirko said the police did the right thing.
"We were trapped in the bedroom and there was no telling what that bear would do," she said. "People say bears aren't supposed to come into your house, but this one did. I think the police were justified in doing what they did."
Spirko said she doesn't have any guns in her house, but she supported the action that Flynn had taken.
"I totally understand what he did," she said. "He was protecting his family."
The DEP says Spirko handled the her bear encounter the right way.
"The mother did the right thing," said Jack Kaskey, spokesman for the DEP. "She called the police."
The state estimates as many as 3,200 black bears live in New Jersey. It has proposed a one-week hunt in December to thin the population. Opponents of the hunt say there's no need to slaughter bears if people learned to live among them and keep garbage out of reach of scavenging bears.
Although recent events suggest that bears are becoming more aggressive, state records show a drop in the number of dangerous encounters from a year ago.
As of June 3, there had been 48 "Category 1" incidents - encounters in which bears either came within 10 feet of a human, caused property damage, or posed a threat to pets or livestock. Last year at this time, there had been 94 Category 1 incidents.
The state attributes the decline to the harsh winter, which kept bears in their dens longer than usual.
6390921
Black bean & turkey chili ---------------- Chopstick chicken ---------------- Italian beef dinner salad ---------------- Pork chops in orchard gravy ---------------- Scallop and apple stir-fry ---------------- Sea bass in salsa verde ---------------- Shrimp with garlic & lemon ---------------- Southwestern sweet & sour chicken ---------------- Tomato-tomato linguine
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News special report:
Banking on your money
9/11 special report:
Journey Through Shadow
Whiskers
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The man that received the summons for killing a bear that was leaving his home. Has 4 more in his yard, with Fish and Wildlife there.
http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk0NSZmZ2JlbDdmN3ZxZWVFRXl5NjM5Mjc0NyZ5cmlyeTdmNzE3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTM=
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Whiskers
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Do you really think we need a bear hunt??? DUH....http://www.njherald.com/news/newspro/viewnews.cgi?newsid1057238361,43757,
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Ten Bears
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Sounds like time to hunt some bears to me.
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Bear hunting season approved in New Jersey
U.S. Sportsmen's Alliance — July 8, 2003
http://espn.go.com/outdoors/conservation/news/2003/0708/1578232.html
U.S. Sportsmen's Alliance — July 8, 2003
http://espn.go.com/outdoors/conservation/news/2003/0708/1578232.html
Whiskers
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http://www.njherald.com/news/newspro/viewnews.cgi?newsid1057844353,89963,
Hopefully some liberal judge won't jump in and ruin the whole deal. Now I gotta sign up and go learn how to shoot a bear. Shot a couple in different states. But now I gotta go learn how to shoot em.
Hopefully some liberal judge won't jump in and ruin the whole deal. Now I gotta sign up and go learn how to shoot a bear. Shot a couple in different states. But now I gotta go learn how to shoot em.
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Good luck
Found this on the PETA2 board. They are making posts over there telling the members to support this site, and save the bears of NJ.
http://www.savenjbears.com/
http://www.savenjbears.com/
Ten Bears
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I sent them a message. I said I read their release, but what I really want to know is what they really know about bears.
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