ATV'S May save hunting !

[pa mt man]

Found this article. Check out the last paragraph. http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050313/NEWS01/503130310

 

[ELKCHSR]

I see this article as being correct to a pretty big extent.
Kids nowdays want every thing handed to them and made easy for them while they are recieving it.
Four wheelers are just another way for them to do some thing, make it easy and enjoy themselves while they are at it...

 

[Ithaca 37]

So part of the solution is to let hunters retrieve game with ATVs? How many hunters will keep hunting a few more years because of that? And then what happens when those aging baby boomers die off? The real problem is how to recruit young hunters. I doubt many young people will take up hunting just because they can use ATVs to retrieve game.

 

[BuzzH]

Thats a real lame defense of atv's...about one of the lamest I've seen.

ATV's will not save hunting and thats a fact.

I agree with Ithaca the problem is getting more young hunters out there, not catering to the old.

Thats the problem with things now, everyone wants to take the easy way out. It shouldnt be suprising that the average American hunter is now a fat-assed atv riding slug that has to be able to drive up and load "thar deer" on the back of their machine. What a pathetic bunch of lazy bastards....and to top it off, the article in question is talking about the extremely steep and rugged country of LOUISIANA. Does the author realize just how ridiculous his defense of atv's sounds?

Give me a break.

 

[ELKCHSR]

LOL!!!! I didn't figure I had posted a defense, just what I have seen.
Have what I have seen around here much different than what you both have witnessed?

 

[BuzzH]

Oh, you mean the guys that weigh 3 bills and have 12 year old kids that weigh 2 and a half bills and are hauling around a goose-neck trailer with half a dozen atvs with a lone 2 point strapped to the hood of the truck?

Yeah, they're the same guys that find it necessary to drive off-road to pick up game and typically bitch about the weather, other hunters, wolves, lions, etc. etc. as to why only one of them took a forkie. They like to discuss their lack of hunting success over a double quarter pounder with cheese, super-sized fries and a quart of coca-cola while their fat twelve year olds are heading down the slide in ronalds playground dressed in blaze orange...

 

[ELKCHSR]

I don't usually stop and talk to them when they are in that mode, I have walked to far back into the back country to see them, cept of course when I am driving out of the area in my little truck and they are all sitting around the camp fire.
There are benifits to having them out there though, they don't have the ambition to walk far and bother the areas I hunt, and they all buy tags every year, the more tags they buy, the better bargain mine stay. Its a trade off and I for one will live.

 

[BuzzH]

Elkcheese, thats pretty funny that you need the fat-asses to subsidize your tags...

But, I guess when you only work a few days a year...you may have a good point.

 

[Larry Landgren]

atv will just make kids more pusses than they already are theese days.
what got me hooked was packing way into the whet stones mountains glassing up a nice coues deer buck , making a 300+ yard shot and packing it out on my own at the age of 10.

all its going to do is turn kids into a bunch of lazy road hunters .

 

[cjcj]

Atv`s are the problem? When parents let then sit on their ass while someone else mows the lawn,cleans the pool ? they hire a maid to clean the house? while the kids sit around and play vidio games..No more "required" Phs.Ed. in school.. think about it...its a combination of everything.....You need balance you can use your ATV/Boat? 4x4 truck and still go out on foot to hunt.

 

[ELKCHSR]

Exactly CJ...
And they subsidize yours to Buzz... (Instate ones any way)

 

[DRAFTSTUD]

I recently attended one of the "Town Hall" meetings in Shreveport about Deer hunting and what direction the state should take in it's Deer Management Program. Most of the speakers were concerned with "I'm a still hunter and I hate running Deer with dogs or I'm a deer hunter that runs dogs and I want more Days to Hunt deer". I addressed the broad issues that I thought would benefit most Hunters, that we pay too little and expect too much. The proposed Tagging system that we were debating would benefit the small acreage hunter that must compete with the large leases as far as opportunities that the state gives large leases enrolled with the Deer Management programs. By enrolling in these programs it is not unsual for a large lease to recieve one Doe tag per 40 acres. One mistake I saw was the hunter leaving a stand in the woods overnight, can you imagine what is going to happen when Bubba Sets up in the Dark and along come Beudroux putting his stand back up after first light! I made all of these statments to a large crowd and got applause for bringing up the fact that if you have a need for money, go to the hunters using the resource. (Got in Sunday's paper too!) As far as ATVs, we use them on our lease to avoid having our roads rutted up in the typical Louisiana Gumbo, do I think that the use of an ATV extends the age that a hunter hunts...no, I paid for my father's ATV and he still was pretty much on the sidelines when it came to hunting, he made a good "camp warrior" and that was fine with me.

 

[Ten Bears]

I believe that there should be areas where ATV's are okay to hunt with as a tool of the hunt, and there should be areas off limits. Just because BUZZ is ATVophobic doesn't mean that having hunters that hunt near roads is a bad thing. Good comments ELKCHSR.

 

[ELKCHSR]

Thanks Ten...
I see the laws that are on the books now, and a lot of the areas I walk into off limits to them working for the most part. I still find ATV tracks where they are not supposed to be, but as it goes the same with any criminal element, there are no amount of laws, regulations, or ill feelings that will change the fact that they are going to break the law and there isn't much any one is going to do about it unless we catch them in the act and turn them in, simple as that.
I really doubt they will just plain illegalize ATV's, snowmobiles, dirt bikes..., heck they can't even get the snowmobiles out of Yellowstone completely and that’s a National Park.
I don't own one but do have a trail 90 in the garage that has never even been started, I use it to store stuff on, kind of like those that buy exercise equipment.

 

[cjcj]

Hey elkchser does that trail 90 have a switch /or do you change the sprocket?

 

[ELKCHSR]

I have no idea, it was given to me about six years ago and I can't even hardly see it, I can tell you its red though...
I suppose I could get off my butt and go look, I will try and get out there to see....

 

[Nut]

The aging hunting population is leading to changes in regulations to make it easier for hunters over age 59 and those with "physically challenged hunter" permits, Moreland said. New rules allow them to retrieve downed deer and hogs with an ATV as long as neither the hunter nor his helper has a firearm or archery equipment. Also, they can leave deer stands in the woods chained to the bottom of a tree, not in a hunting position.

I really do not see how this discussion came about by this paragraph.