pointingdogsrule
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I was not sure if I was to put this under "politics" or "guns".
Not a good day for gun owners. See the ruling by the 9th circuit court:
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...c-also-good-reason-provision-is-fine-n2176190
As most know the 9th is the most "liberal" of all the courts so this is what should be expected. We advanced further down the slippery slope as our guns rights are eroded.
Yep, I understand that the usual contributors will think of me as: "a NRA right wing nut, someone who gets his info from the internet "so it must be true", someone who has no knowledge of the law".
They will tell me that this will be overturned by the SCOTUS and this will never stand. They will tell me that it's anti-second amendment so it is invalid. They will tell me that it has nothing to do with our hunting rights and the weapons that we use to hunt. They will tell me that this doesn't affect me or future gun rights.
Just last week on this forum I was told that Hillary didn't want to take guns away (that's correct... she just wants to make guns and ammo hard to obtain & hard to use for intended purpose... self defense). That she could NOT overturn the second amendment (that's also correct). That I didn't understand the laws of the land or how our system works (incorrect).
Here's my take (so fire away). This case WILL advance to the SCOTUS. At this point in time the SCOTUS is 4 liberal (counting Kennedy as a liberal) and 4 conservative. 1 absent. If Hillary is elected I would bet that she will NOT appoint a conservative who is pro second amendment. That means the possibility of this ruling being upheld. Even if it is 4 to 4 vote with no replacement the ruling stands (without precedent). There goes a persons "right" (and I use that term loosely) to carry and protect one's self unless you can show "cause".
The point is that I believe Hillary WILL appoint more liberal judges to the courts that will rule exactly like the 9th court. One more liberal on the SCOTUS and you have a majority. Hillary does not have to make laws to outlaw guns or restrict guns. Her court appointees will do this for Hillary.
I find it amazing that these judges can go to the ends of the earth to find parts of the constitution that guarantee rights.... except when it comes to gun rights.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed".
End of my rant..... I feel better By the way..... in the future your children may be enjoying those "public lands" without firearms allowed.
good luck to all
the dog
Not a good day for gun owners. See the ruling by the 9th circuit court:
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...c-also-good-reason-provision-is-fine-n2176190
As most know the 9th is the most "liberal" of all the courts so this is what should be expected. We advanced further down the slippery slope as our guns rights are eroded.
Yep, I understand that the usual contributors will think of me as: "a NRA right wing nut, someone who gets his info from the internet "so it must be true", someone who has no knowledge of the law".
They will tell me that this will be overturned by the SCOTUS and this will never stand. They will tell me that it's anti-second amendment so it is invalid. They will tell me that it has nothing to do with our hunting rights and the weapons that we use to hunt. They will tell me that this doesn't affect me or future gun rights.
Just last week on this forum I was told that Hillary didn't want to take guns away (that's correct... she just wants to make guns and ammo hard to obtain & hard to use for intended purpose... self defense). That she could NOT overturn the second amendment (that's also correct). That I didn't understand the laws of the land or how our system works (incorrect).
Here's my take (so fire away). This case WILL advance to the SCOTUS. At this point in time the SCOTUS is 4 liberal (counting Kennedy as a liberal) and 4 conservative. 1 absent. If Hillary is elected I would bet that she will NOT appoint a conservative who is pro second amendment. That means the possibility of this ruling being upheld. Even if it is 4 to 4 vote with no replacement the ruling stands (without precedent). There goes a persons "right" (and I use that term loosely) to carry and protect one's self unless you can show "cause".
The point is that I believe Hillary WILL appoint more liberal judges to the courts that will rule exactly like the 9th court. One more liberal on the SCOTUS and you have a majority. Hillary does not have to make laws to outlaw guns or restrict guns. Her court appointees will do this for Hillary.
I find it amazing that these judges can go to the ends of the earth to find parts of the constitution that guarantee rights.... except when it comes to gun rights.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed".
End of my rant..... I feel better By the way..... in the future your children may be enjoying those "public lands" without firearms allowed.
good luck to all
the dog