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Another Crazies Land Swap?
100% of the problem with this process is that you are deciding what "substantive" is. The public decides what "substantive" is. Those comments are going to PCEC's P.O. Box, not a public agency (state or federal) with accountability and transparency in the process, and they can throw...- katqanna
- Post #38
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Another Crazies Land Swap?
"The current east side proposal is the perfect time for the public to draw a line and demand what is rightfully ours. Montanans will happily negotiate trail relocation, but only after our public rights are recognized on existing trails." These are the groups that signed on to this oped (pretty...- katqanna
- Post #37
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Another Crazies Land Swap?
Misdirect to obfuscate much? Royston is asking about funding for the website, the open houses, printed material, flyers with the PCEC P.O. Box. We already know about the Yellowstone money for the trail and such. BTW, March 20, 2020 CV-00066-SPW-TJC Memorandum In Support of Motion To File...- katqanna
- Post #31
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Another Crazies Land Swap?
Who is funding the Crazy Mountain Access Project? "The above loophole in state campaign finance law allows the Crazy Mountain Access Project to keep the public in the dark about its funding sources. I was able to verify, however, this group has the same postal address used by the Park County...- katqanna
- Post #29
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Another Crazies Land Swap?
Per someone at the Livingston meeting last night, those tabling the event stated the Sweet Grass Trail #122 is open to the public now and has never been limited. This is absolutely not true that the landowners have not limited public access. From my Forest Service documents I have a copy of...- katqanna
- Post #24
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Another Crazies Land Swap?
Sweet Grass #122 is already being litigated, it has been part of our lawsuit from the beginning, just as the West side trail #267 and #195 has been. Speaking of which, here is a question, perhaps an inconvenient question for some. If the public didn't have access on the west side, Porcupine...- katqanna
- Post #19
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Another Crazies Land Swap?
Below are the tip of the iceberg points that the working group pr is not informing the public about. I've also included a satellite image of the existing trails in orange and purple, versus the proposed reroutes in red. The 2nd image is the trail from Big Timber Canyon road, zigzagging upward...- katqanna
- Post #13
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Another Crazies Land Swap?
Yes, it is another component of the incredible, shrinking Crazy Mountains. Two men, not the working group, gave a presentation to our lawsuit coalition in February, on the condition that we not speak about it until they finalized it, then gave it to the working group to submit the proposal to...- katqanna
- Post #2
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Crazy Mountains Public Access & FS Management Lawsuit Filed Today
I just got an email from FWP. Thankfully, they reviewed the easements I sent them, got approval from all needed and submitted an amendment to their comment to the Forest Service. FWP provided a pdf of their amendment, which I am attaching here. "Because there is access in both sections, we wish...- katqanna
- Post #77
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Crazy Mountains Public Access & FS Management Lawsuit Filed Today
I have been downloading all the public comments submitted on the land exchange projects, since the FS took them down a couple days after on the Porcupine Relocation project. I saw FWP submitted a comment: I contacted the writer to let them know that there is public access here, offered to...- katqanna
- Post #76
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Crazy Mountains Public Access & FS Management Lawsuit Filed Today
In my comments, I expressed concern for the CMR water rights - "The CMR will permanently reserve rights to operate and maintain the Rock Lake dam and outlet tunnel in the deed through which CMR conveys Section 11 to the Forest Service. CMR would retain its water rights for the volume of water...- katqanna
- Post #75
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Crazy Mountains Public Access & FS Management Lawsuit Filed Today
I have been TBI delayed from getting this webpage finished on the South Crazy Mountains Land Exchange Proposal, for weeks. So it does not have as in depth of a break down as I normally do. I did focus on details that others have not addressed as much, with the documentation to go with it, such...- katqanna
- Post #73
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The Passing of a Montana Conservation & Public Access Warrior
Butte's Montana Standard - Longtime Montana public access pioneer Tony Schoonen dead at 89- katqanna
- Post #14
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The Passing of a Montana Conservation & Public Access Warrior
You're welcome. You are right about our Stream access too often taken for granted. After a conversation with him, I worked up a detailed history, including Tony (the pic of him on the Big Hole with Roy), so that younger people would know how it was fought for and some of who did the fighting...- katqanna
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The Passing of a Montana Conservation & Public Access Warrior
You're welcome. I loved Tony's passion. He was one of the few that wasn't shocked, or tried to correct my (being female) cussing about conservation/privatization bullshit. He laughed the first time and said he guessed he didn't have to watch his tongue then. And he didn't. 😂- katqanna
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The Passing of a Montana Conservation & Public Access Warrior
The Passing of a Montana Conservation & Public Access Warrior I didn't see anything posted here, so I thought I would share my recent newsletter with y'all. So much of the stream access and public lands access that so many enjoy here in Montana, especially state public lands, was fought for and...- katqanna
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Crazy Mountains Public Access & FS Management Lawsuit Filed Today
Three found guilty of trespassing in Crazy Mountains are appealing Three Livingston men found guilty during a July jury trial of trespassing in the Crazy Mountains plan to appeal their convictions in District Court. Nate Howard, Joseph Bullington and Johnathan "This case is about whether...- katqanna
- Post #69
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Crazy Mountains Public Access & FS Management Lawsuit Filed Today
Forest Service just put out a notice that the relocated trail (first stage to North Fork of Elk Creek Trail #195) will be open to the public Oct. 11th. "The Forest Service no longer asserts a claim to a Forest System trail on the route depicted in previous visitor maps as the Porcupine Lowline...- katqanna
- Post #68
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Crazy Mountains Public Access & FS Management Lawsuit Filed Today
Update on case... Sept. 30, 2019 United States Magistrate Judge Cavan ordered Motion to dismiss denied as moot. CV 19-66-BLG-SPW-TJC Order.CMP We filed an amended complaint and the DOJ answered, so the previous Motion to Dismiss is moot, not denied as the Chronicle wrote.- katqanna
- Post #67
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Crazy Mountains Public Access & FS Management Lawsuit Filed Today
Happy National Public Lands Day. Here is the updated Crazy Mountains Legal page Judges Watters had a very heavy case load and moved our case to the jurisdiction of United States Magistrate Judge Honorable Timothy J. Cavan. He "will conduct all necessary hearings and submit to the undersigned...- katqanna
- Post #66
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