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  1. J

    Opinion pieces like this bug me

    I appreciate that, Scott, and see the wisdom of your point about tone more than ever. Having said that, I’m a Scot with some Irish blood, and I don’t mind throwing or taking a stiff jab occasionally—but that act tends to blur into the great muddy swamp of nameless internet vitriol and dilute my...
  2. J

    Opinion pieces like this bug me

    Going waaaay back to the guest opinion piece the OP referenced, I spent a couple of hours today in a meeting largely focused on RMEF. I learned a great deal that substantiated and added depth to the points Randy made in his long post on his thread…so mea culpa, boys. I didn’t mean that piece...
  3. J

    Non resident Landowner incentive.

    With credit to Eric Dietrich and the Montana Free Press, this pretty much sums up the current legislative session.
  4. J

    Non resident Landowner incentive.

    Last night I referenced talking today with Jim Posewitz’s son, Andrew, who I worked with on the Montana Public Trust Coalition. Randy did a podcast with him on that effort. He sent a looong email to me this morning. I don’t speak for him and don’t quite track some of this, so I’m cutting and...
  5. J

    Non resident Landowner incentive.

    I’ll look around for a spare half mil and get back to you 😳
  6. J

    Non resident Landowner incentive.

    Couldn’t agree more
  7. J

    Non resident Landowner incentive.

    Carnage, I’m good, but thanks. Certainly mot trying to twist anything but believe the details are important. I’m guessing my wording was poor; trying to get the kid to school. The landowner’s 454 is on top of the cap, but the three additional access tags, if they go to NR’s, are within the...
  8. J

    Non resident Landowner incentive.

    No, Ben—the license sales in Brett’s article were NR big game only. That’s clear. And hunter days are the more important metric, sure, but they are less precise. Agree on the goal. I don’t agree that we are potentially reducing NR hunting pressure 10%. That doesn’t hold up in the face of...
  9. J

    Non resident Landowner incentive.

    I had not seen that. BHA, I’m guessing?
  10. J

    Non resident Landowner incentive.

    According to Brett French’s January 23 article in the Lee Newspapers, in 2021 FWP sold 24,000 NR elk licenses. Not just NR elk hunters hunt public land, of course; NR deer hunters do also. Here is the scariest part of that story: “Added together, the total nonresident elk and deer licenses...
  11. J

    Non resident Landowner incentive.

    I haven’t heard any opponents to 635 tout 454. I and others have pointed out that 454 did create a little access (at excessive cost and unacceptable risk in my view, and it is best killed), and this doesn’t. It moves some of the 17 K false cap of NR tags off public land, which will be overrun...
  12. J

    Non resident Landowner incentive.

    Well, you quoted the part that said I don’t like it. I also want it dead. And I’m not talking here about the single bonus point, which is close to irrelevant. I’m talking about de facto guaranteed NR tags, multiplied by acreage.
  13. J

    Non resident Landowner incentive.

    I’ll need to reread that in the morning. As I said above, resident landowner preference points kind of toe a line—but we don’t stack them up for larger landholdings, as this does. I’ve been pondering that heirarchy you mention, because it raises questions I can’t answer. Do NR DIY hunters...
  14. J

    Non resident Landowner incentive.

    I suggest we are arguing over different things. The North American Model doesn’t assume to instruct landowners how to do things. It is a set of principles for agencies that manage the wildlife resource. No argument that the experience of the hunter is affected in the way you describe, at all...
  15. J

    Non resident Landowner incentive.

    I’m sorry, but you’re talking about the rights of the landowner, and I’m talking about the algorithm by which an agency—the trustee of a public resource—distributes coveted tags to non-residents. Respectfully, that’s apples to oranges.
  16. J

    Non resident Landowner incentive.

    That’s an interesting cast to it. I’ve read several different versions and a book about the North American Model, and I didn’t have a sense that it was meant as a binary, all-or-nothing concept. We already toe this line here with resident landowner preference points—but you don’t get...
  17. J

    Non resident Landowner incentive.

    Equal opportunity. Different organizations verbalize that principle differently, but here is TRCP’s: 7) The democracy of hunting and fishing. In keeping with democratic principles, government allocates access to wildlife without regard for wealth, prestige, or land ownership. So yeah, that’s a...
  18. J

    Non resident Landowner incentive.

    635 passed second reading narrowly today, 54-45. I know many here don’t agree with me, but I feel sick. If it goes through it’s a clear stick in the eye to one of the core tenets of the North American Model. And guaranteed permits for NR’s were one of the first tools Don Peay used to gain...
  19. J

    SB 497 - Attack on Stream Access

    SA, there are a number of legislators voting for things in committee that are voting the other way on further voter engagement. I saw an email today from Jonathan Windy Boy that demonstrated that. We all need to keep in mind what sustained engagement can achieve.
  20. J

    SB 497 - Attack on Stream Access

    That is great, and greater in that it represents real representation. Thank you, Ben, and thanks to all who engaged on this.
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