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Oh, the irony!
We will see. I hope you are right. The tax cuts will get passed fast. Then the market might force their hand with a Liz Truss-moment.- SAJ-99
- Post #242
- Forum: Public Land Issues
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I have a feeling they are going to get DOGE'd way before they have to worry about any potential land transfer. I suspect Elon Musk hasn't spent a lot of time in a National Forest to even begin to understand the importance of the staff.- SAJ-99
- Post #233
- Forum: Public Land Issues
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Money is the real issue. Snippet below for the TLDR-crowd, but it is worth the read. "So far, the entire $39 million in Wyoming’s emergency fire suppression account has been used to fight this summer’s fires. This money, which first became available in July, was supposed to last two years. In...- SAJ-99
- Post #228
- Forum: Public Land Issues
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Sorry, I don't want to put words in your mouth and acknowledge that you have said you are against it. I actually agree that WY would probably quickly make camping ok. But I think the point of the post you responded to was to show what happens when there is an immediate reclassification of land...- SAJ-99
- Post #223
- Forum: Public Land Issues
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The implied meaning went from “The government should get out of Americans way and let them be successful” to “If you failed or don’t like something, it’s the government’s fault.” To say that WY camping rules would change so the transfer would be fine is not just failing to see the forest for...- SAJ-99
- Post #218
- Forum: Public Land Issues
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It certainly wouldn't be binary for all states. As @Irrelevant pointed out, Washington has more state land now than when it was brought into the union. I could guess that WA would try to keep as much of that land public as possible. WA has one of the highest median income levels, zero state...- SAJ-99
- Post #193
- Forum: Public Land Issues
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Trump isn't the immediate threat. The Utah case is in SCOTUS hands. But Trump rewrote the Republican Platform to include this. Selling off "limited portions" of Federal lands to build homes is the first step in creating a transactional system to further dispose of those lands to large natural...- SAJ-99
- Post #11
- Forum: Sportsmen Issues
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I think we are in a stage where people tell themselves all kinds of things to justify their beliefs (or vote). Maybe all Big Fin is saying is PAY ATTENTION, particularly on who you are giving your money too. Because of the price of groceries, voters took a hard right turn and now find themselves...- SAJ-99
- Post #179
- Forum: Public Land Issues
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The argument that they would be better managed at the state level is exactly that argument. The states have a history of selling the land. The states don’t have the funds and can’t print money or issue debt in quantities necessary to fund some of it. Scale is why the federal government takes...- SAJ-99
- Post #147
- Forum: Public Land Issues
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This is a different conversation. Don’t confuse it by pretending that these public lands won’t be privatized post transfer.- SAJ-99
- Post #145
- Forum: Public Land Issues
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12 states join Utah
That’s a word salad. A true politician.- SAJ-99
- Post #66
- Forum: Public Land Issues
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And what is annoying to me, and @Irrelevant apparently, is that people keep thinking "Don't worry that, will never happen" while voting for those actively trying to make it happen. Kind of the pinnacle of a #@)(*%* up cognitive dissonance. I assure you, the wheels of motion on this process were...- SAJ-99
- Post #134
- Forum: Public Land Issues
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Financial relief? That’s a joke, right? If I get financial relief I want 1) states to pay fair market value for these lands and 2) legal freedom from the obligation to fund disaster relief. Meaning the next time a wildfire that starts on these state lands burns a town, don’t come looking for a...- SAJ-99
- Post #130
- Forum: Public Land Issues
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I think that is the point. You currently have lands owned equally by all citizens of this country transferred, not sold but transferred, to state ownership so they can be sold off. What do the owners that live in the other 49 states get? Other than bent over…- SAJ-99
- Post #125
- Forum: Public Land Issues
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Some things are a feature, not a bug. Got sure, corruption and incompetence is more apparent the lower level in government you go. Selling off land is a strange way of “managing”.- SAJ-99
- Post #119
- Forum: Public Land Issues
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Like I said, I can argue both ways. In Chicago, you can't tell where Cook county ends and Dupage county begins. It was a line drawn a long time ago and over 150yrs the city of Chicago and metro area outgrew boundaries of the county. But in some places you have to follow one set of rules on one...- SAJ-99
- Post #104
- Forum: Public Land Issues
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Agreed. But are they relevant? I can probably argue both ways.- SAJ-99
- Post #100
- Forum: Public Land Issues
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Need a 🤷♂️ emoji. It probably varies by state. Part of the problem is that people think laws are static when they are not. If in some states counties didn’t get taxes from states for state land, it can be changed with a vote and swipe of the pen. on a side note, the question reminds me of a...- SAJ-99
- Post #95
- Forum: Public Land Issues
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I’m depressed enough. I need some support here. lol. But I’m also realistic. The “write your congressman” doesn’t work here. (And let’s be honest, it is hard to get people to simply vote, let alone write their congressional reps.) SCOTUS can say it’s unconstitutional and call for the Feds to...- SAJ-99
- Post #92
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I wish I could share your optimism. I figure the SCOTUS case is 50/50. The long game has been going on for years. Every chance is taken to cut funding. The long game will speed up now. You think a couple of billionaires in charge of “Government efficiency” are going to view USFWS or BLM as...- SAJ-99
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