Ya I was thinking about MT last night while drifting off. I am a big fan of simplicity, how does the below sound?
Lesser numbered species like a Moose.
20% off the top for NR's, Random draw
80% Res only, OTC with caps
2 week pre-order period for Residents of the particular unit. Meaning if...
Not a troll, but I do like to troll. Thanks for your honest opinions, obviously by addressing Iowa, the pitchforks were bound to come out.
No one will ever convince me a short season is advantageous simply because I love the fun/recreation factor. I understand it is tradition and if that is the...
The difference would be % of people headed to private vs public. It's the mainstay out here because public land is everywhere. It's the exception back in FL.
There is a little shiny spot on the map for hunter numbers and they all have long seasons. Is there a way to providing that kind of...
I'm guessing you are from a hunting family? Me too. I sat in stands from 7-12 years old before I shot my first doe. I also had private land and everyone around me was a hunter.
Take a person from a non hunting family, they simply don't have that option. Get them hooked and hooked fast with...
3rd generation Florida man here. The hunting is primarily done on private. In FL if someone says they are going to hunt public your first thought is "I'm so sorry"
Really I am comparing cultures. I think there is a happy medium. I would sit out every other year, to ensure heard health and longer seasons. I'm not saying anything I've said is correct, what I'm really doing is advocating for a change of thinking.
Montana could have a 12 week OTC moose...
You are quoting stats from out west which are of course displaying small numbers of days in the field. It's all they are allowed to have, makes sense this will be represented in the numbers.
I could care less about status quo. I throw grenades into multi million dollar systems multiple times...
Agreed it's good system for antlers. But you can literally project, using declining hunter numbers, when hunting will dry up. Why not shoot for nice antlers and expanding hunter base? With all that corn there has to be a way to do both.
So a person that hunts 50 days is lazier than a person who hunts 5? Give me a break. What you are seeing in the Western stats is simply conditioning. When you are conditioned to hunt short, you hunt short. Given the opportunity, a hunter will hunt an entire long season with the only rush being...
I see your points, but in reality how is the new hunter going to feel in an OTC unit where year after year, chances are, they don't see squat?
In an opposite scenario, you bring that person on a lease and they get to harvest a small buck or doe on the first outing. Which one is going to hook...
It's not about the weapon, its about providing as much as possible to the hunter to make it inviting.
With say AL and TX being 100% leases and hunting thriving, what is the difference between WNY? I would argue culture. How do you create culture? Have something available that people want to...
So I'm the only one on this thread proposing a solution, everyone else is defending status quo. It's for purpose of conversation.
I dream about staying out of Iowa, just so you know. 😅
The reason to avoid OTC units in Colorado is a strategy devised from too many hunters in one place at one...
Actually not my plan, giving to me recently by the former Cyber Security Director for the State. He has jumped ship and joined the private sector (me grilling him about elk all day).
My go forward plan is stay out of all OTC units. So if he wanted to hunt with me, it's the points game. Even my home unit I can't draw without playing the points game.
Brass tacks is, midwestern hunter numbers are in sharp decline. You are still defending a sinking ship, what is a better plan than my idea of making it more inviting? You can still have blackout dates around harvesting times.
My best buddy John, non hunter. We grew up together back east, he now lives out here too. Every time I wanted to drag John along in FL or Georgia, I went by his house and said load up.
Fast forward to current day. John wants to get into bow hunting for the food value. He asks me how and all I...