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Bulls for Billionaires - MT EQC Meeting today 1:30 PM
This is exactly what WY does and they end up with success rates in the 40-50%s. They actually manage wildlife rather than let the billionaires hold them hostage and pretend that's their only option. They also limit the pressure on private to cow only because the stated problem is over... -
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MT Licensing System - Burn it down? How to Improve it?
How about the department set tag quotas based on accessible elk only. Objectives are currently set based on winter counts unit-wide and that results in 95% of the hunters chasing 5% of the elk in most of these central and eastern units and driving everything to private. If a unit's over... -
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Montana FWP makes seismic shift in elk permits
If this process taught us anything, it's that rallying together and making our collective voice heard makes a huge difference. I just hope we can duplicate that effort when the new EMP is on the table. We're gonna need it and have much more to lose there than we can imagine, given the current... -
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Montana FWP makes seismic shift in elk permits
Was great to see the bs proposals get shot down and even better to see the message sent that if anyone wants to privatize our wildlife, there's one hell of a hornets nest they're gonna be running into! -
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Montana Elk Proposals with Director Hank Worsech
As glad as I was to hear all the questions raised about unlimited permits, I was equally concerned about the lack of questions on the 50% increase in rifle permits. Sure hope that gets the same level of scrutiny tomorrow.- Sioux33
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- Forum: Hunt Talk Radio Podcast
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Montana Elk Proposals with Director Hank Worsech
That's what I was thinking when Worsech kept downplaying it by saying it won't be a big increase of NR's compared to past years. I was waiting for someone to call him out, but nobody did. With this proposal, you could theoretically have 10k plus non-residents all get unlimited tags in the same...- Sioux33
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- Forum: Hunt Talk Radio Podcast
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Montana FWP makes seismic shift in elk permits
What, you mean actually go back and follow the regional biologist proposals?? You know, the ones that Hank crumpled up and threw in the trash because he wanted to bring the "best science" to the commission and let them decide the "social issues"... -
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Montana FWP makes seismic shift in elk permits
Apparently his version of "the best scientific information" is whatever he pulls outta his ass the night before the commission meeting. -
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Montana FWP makes seismic shift in elk permits
After researching some WY units, MT's polar opposite approach to elk management is just laughable. I pulled a couple excerpts from their biologist reports below: "Higher quotas in previous years coincided with decreased hunter success, increased hunter crowding, and decreased overall hunter... -
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Montana FWP makes seismic shift in elk permits
But how are these ranch owners going to advertise their elk herd when they want to sell their ranch and make a few million bucks? The Wilks just did exactly that this year trying to sell their ranch in the Bull Mountains, bragging about how amazing of a hunting ranch it is with hundreds of elk... -
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MT - Changes in Hunting Regs/Units/Seasons coming this month
General areas will be the best spots in the state next year when the tens of thousands of unlimited permit bowhunters are busy with the inaugural fall elk roundup onto GG's campaign donor's ranches. Just think of all the jet fuel those guys are gonna save not having to herd up the elk themselves... -
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MT ELK, Changing it up?
And lets not forget how this got here. If you watched the pre-commission meeting on the 13th, or whatever it was, you heard Tabor, who's an outfitter, say he can't vote for the general archery proposal, but would like to see MOGA's idea of a "pick your unit unlimited archery tag", then Worsech... -
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MT - Changes in Hunting Regs/Units/Seasons coming this month
That's great stuff. If you only look at the portions of those units that hold elk, that shrinks the available public down big time. A lot of public in those units are flat BLM, antelope country. -
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MT - Changes in Hunting Regs/Units/Seasons coming this month
I almost think there needs to be a push for a special session before the February meeting. I can already see it. The commission narrowly approves unlimited archery permits and 50% more rifle tags, because they "ran out of time and had to try something different". If there's a way to pull that... -
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MT - Changes in Hunting Regs/Units/Seasons coming this month
Watching bits and pieces of that meeting last night was pretty telling. You kind of get the sense of how the commissioners feel, they all seemed pretty fed up with Hank putting them in this spot. Some of my takeaways was Jana Waller seems like she's there for the right reasons. I don't think... -
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MT - Changes in Hunting Regs/Units/Seasons coming this month
Unbelievable. He pisses and moans that the public doesn't have any ideas. So, Randy offers up 4 excellent ones, which some of the commissioners even asked him why they weren't considered, and then he pulls this outta his ass. -
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MT ELK, Changing it up?
Well, after reading the bios report in the meeting agenda I'm not sure if Hank even read through them or if he just said the hell with them, but I'm guessing the latter. Gotta give these bio's credit, they seem to be on the same page as us, just a few of the eye popping comments getting ignored... -
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MT ELK, Changing it up?
Funny how they use the EMP as their reasoning for this. The same EMP that they've never followed from the get-go. Hank completely ignores page 55 that tells us to disregard inaccessible elk in the objective counts and then goes ahead in his press release and claims it to be the reason he's... -
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MT ELK, Changing it up?
This quote from Hank is laughable: “We can’t keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different result. We have to try something different." Landowners have been given every tool in the book to lower elk numbers. Shoulder seasons August through February, cows on a general tag... -
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MT ELK, Changing it up?
Block management will be non-existent in these units after this gets ramrodded through. Outfitters will be selling bulls for $10k/head on these ranches. Kiss of death.
