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    Take Back Your Elk

    It’s over 15,000 tags elk tags between the outfitter set aside and EPLUS that are privatized. 15,356. 13,803 EPLUS and 1,553 outfitter draw set aside. That is out of a total of elk tags of 36,161 tags. 75.1% of privatized tags are nonresident. For bull tags, 84,9% are nonresident, 95.8% of...
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    Take Back Your Elk

    I understand the sentiment. But although our tags are extremely difficult to draw, NM is one of the cheapest states to apply in and if you draw the hunting can be fabulous. Especially for elk. Also, absent any sort of preference or bonus system you are always on equal footing with everyone else...
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    Take Back Your Elk

    Right. I apologize for the misinterpretation on my part.
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    Take Back Your Elk

    So? It’s more like 3 or 4 decades anyway. As long as the system exists us New Mexicans will “chirp”.
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    Take Back Your Elk

    Unfortunately New Mexico’s constitution does not allow for ballot initiative. Only referendum. That is to say citizens can only strike laws. Not make them. And even the referendum process is so cumbersome that it had only been attempted like twice in state history and failed both times. I’m sure...
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    Take Back Your Elk

    There is no privatization system in a western statethat even approaches New Mexico’s in scale and the near total lack of public component in return for private privilege over the resident owned wildlife. What you are saying is that somehow New Mexico is unique among the western states and the...
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    I’m not seeing it?
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    Take Back Your Elk

    That is a great point that I have been making lately too. All Western state hunters should be very interested in helping to expose and reverse New Mexico’s private system. Us westerners need to stick together on this issue. What westerners should be aware of is that we are the only region where...
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    Take Back Your Elk

    That is wrong. It will be over New Mexicans dead bodies that the unguided nonresident share of tags is reduced. We will only accept and increase in both unguided resident and nonresident draw tags as a share of total elk tags. Which is saying that the increases of public tags for both residents...
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    Take Back Your Elk

    The intended outcome is multifaceted. Put heat on New Mexico’s elected and appointed officials to stop their long standing wholesale theft of our publicly owned wildlife and hunting opportunity for the benefit of the fabulously wealthy. Make both New Mexican’s and nonresidents share of our elk...
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    Take Back Your Elk

    What do you think about it
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    Take Back Your Elk

    What do you think about it?
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    Take Back Your Elk

    Not to be flip, but so what? That does not define the system. The system is designed to and succeeds in the wholesale transfer of the public’s wildlife and hunting to private interests and wealthy hunters. EPLUS makes a mockery of both the public trust doctrine and the North American Model of...
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    Take Back Your Elk

    I really don’t like how in hunttalk forum people have fake names and you don’t know who they are. Especially for a thread about such a public interest issue like elk privatization in New Mexico. When an outfitter, guide, or other recipient of the private largess that is New Mexico, I want to...
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    Take Back Your Elk

    Maybe I misinterpreted your comment? I read “should” as meaning your opinion is that the well healed should be able to but public wildlife and hunting opportunity as a matter of good policy. But maybe what you meant is that there are so many private tags in NM that any rich person CAN buy their...
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    Take Back Your Elk

    Unit wide and the granting of highly valuable private permits for public land to relative postage stamp sized properties seems like the most heinous part of our wholesale private system. But it’s not. First, it is only 20% of EPLUS. Second, oddly, it is the only part of our private system...
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    Take Back Your Elk

    The report is perfectly straight up representation of the reality. Really the document is simply an accounting of everyone elk licenses as they were sold in New Mexico during the 2021 season. If these simple license sales statistics leave you guessing “it’s not that simple” because it seems like...
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    Take Back Your Elk

    “The well healed hunter should be able to hunt elk whenever he or she wants”. Have you ever even heard of the public trust doctrine and the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation? What an idiotic comment.
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    TakeBackYourElk - New Mexico Elk Report and Initiative

    New Mexican hunters, including me, hit the end of our patience with our state’s highly privatized Elk tag allocation system. The New Mexico Wildlife Federation, the New Mexico Chapter of Backcountry Hunters and Anglers, and to a lesser extent, I complied elk tag sales data for the 2021 season...
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    New Mexico Stream Access Win

    It is interesting that the ruling specifically mentions walking on the bed of the river and the banks. But it does not say anything about how much “bank”. High water mark? The court seems to have taken an expansive view of the physical nature of constitutional access to the stream, “reasonably...
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