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    Take Back Your Elk

    My figures on unit wide are straight from NMDGF. But the acres of unit wide doesn’t even matter because unit wide is not a balanced private/public partnership like most open gate in other states. The private privileges and benefits greatly exceed the public benefits. The reason is choosing unit...
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    Take Back Your Elk

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    Take Back Your Elk

    Right. The “New Mexicans can buy $20,000 landowner elk tags” argument is such a red herring. It belies willful ignorance to the reason western states have R/NR tag quotas. Pretty basic stuff.
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    AZ auction tags going away

    States could give their art collections to art dealers and buildings and land to realtors to auction off. Imagine the money that would be raised? But how public money is raised matters. AZ decided, properly in my opinion, it did not like the way money was being raised by and for its wildlife...
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    AZ auction tags going away

    I understand the consternation by you and others about the commission not presenting a plan to replace any funding that might be lost before voting to kill the auction tags. But I’m not concerned. I applaud the AZ game commission for making the right choice now and working on funding later. Some...
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    Take Back Your Elk

    Correct. I will add that the reason privatized tags are majority nonresident is demographic. If the barrier to tag acquisition is ability to pay a private fee their will be orders of magnitude more hunters in the necessary income bracket out of the 330 million nonresidents than out of the 2...
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    Take Back Your Elk

    What is wrong with you saying everyone is lying? 100% lying even. That’s not how people interact on the hunt talk forums.
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    Take Back Your Elk

    Just the same as everyone has every opportunity to buy a jet, vacation home in Hawaii, and a 200 ft yacht.
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    AZ auction tags going away

    Exactly. People buying tags to kill sheep for hundreds of thousands of dollars and the so called nonprofit orgs banking a share of that money and paying their execs $300k salaries are made out to be heros. Please. Write the check with no return except the public good and we will talk. WSF will...
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    AZ auction tags going away

    By your logic the states should just put all tags out to the highest bidder. Maybe eliminate nonresident quotas. Let nonresidents that can afford the steeper fees and travel expense have 50% or more of the tags. There would be tons money coming in. Part of the public trust is that wealth is not...
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    AZ auction tags going away

    AZ will figure it out. I live in NM where we have the largest transferable private landowner tag system and thus the largest nonresident tag share in the west. The privateers argue that wildlife management and funding would collapse if NM met its public trust obligations to its residents...
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    AZ auction tags going away

    Good for Arizona. AZ is such a leader in keeping wildlife and hunting public and resident.
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    New Mexico Pronghorn Privatization

    Please stop. You are being foolish.
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    Take Back Your Elk

    You are being silly. It’s not complicated. When a resident buys a tag it’s a resident tag. When a nonresident buys a tag it is a nonresident tag. I assume NMDGF is not lying when its says how many licenses are purchased by residents or nonresidents. Apparently you are conflating tags that...
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    New Mexico Pronghorn Privatization

    You are just trolling. Feel free to post your alternative numbers. Back up your statements.
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    Take Back Your Elk

    Do tell. I’m not. Study up on the NM tag allocations and come back if you want to have an intelligent conversation. You are free to debate my opinion about the numbers. But you can’t make up that the numbers are incorrect with no evidence. That you posted the draw quotas as your evidence...
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    Take Back Your Elk

    You point out the bad joke of the draw quotas and what NMDGFs website says. There are a little over 36,000 elk tags in NM. Almost 14,000 are private landowner tags that are not subject to the draw quotas. About 1,400 are outfitter draw set aside. About 90% of these are nonresident. What you...
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    2024 Take Back Your Elk Report

    Says a dude from WI. lol
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    Take Back Your Elk

    You alluded to the flaw of the unit-wide part of EPLUS. The flaw as far as balancing incentives to private landowners and the public interest in and ownership of wildlife is that to select Ranch Only or Unit Wide is voluntary on the part of the landowner and only applies to the Primary...
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    2024 Take Back Your Elk Report

    During 2022 the New Mexico Wildlife Federation and others issued the groundbreaking Take Back Your Elk report. This report for the first time provided a detailed breakdown of all elk tags sold by the New Mexico Department of Game and Fish. The 2022 report covered the 2021-2022 license season...

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