Just curious is anyone else is having trouble signing in to FWP's online licensing portal.
I'm getting various errors at various stages of the sign in process. This includes "Internal Server Error" and "An unknown error occurred: handleAcceptStatement Error - 4 500 error. Please contact FWP...
And let contracting spend their time writing contracts for things that actually need contracts? New bridges, building, road reconstruction...
Ya better not split purchase an immediate fix needed $3k facility repair. Send it to contracting so someone can come out 6 months later when the cost to...
Another group of folks who do important work on the land.
https://www.kpax.com/news/western-montana-news/forest-products-industry-faces-uncertainty-amid-federal-funding-freeze
Pretty much. Seemed like MSPB agreed that you can't blanket fire probationers with a form letter citing performance issues.
From the order, "OSC submits that a 45-day stay will “minimize the adverse consequences of the apparent prohibited personnel practice” while it further investigates these...
That is correct, no Dept of Interior (DOI) employees (Park Service, Fish and Wildlife, BLM) were included in this ruling. The MSPB order comes from an appeal that was brought by a USDA employee.
The order from last week can be found here (13 page pdf): MSPB Order
edit: updated link to order
The USDA (including Forest service, NRCS) has recognized the court order and announced that probationary employees are reinstated. Employees were notified yesterday, however USDA does not have a plan yet for brining them back to work.
WASHINGTON, March 11, 2025 – The U.S. Department of...
Might be worth adding a few other comments regarding what the workforce currently looks like.
The timber crewmembers are the ones out there painting the trees. Maybe the crew lead was past the probation period, but they now have no crew unless they've been reinstated. There's been an ongoing...
“I just want to say before I get jumped in the parking lot outside of this hearing, we are absolutely 100% as outfitters, guides and residents in support of great data … that leads to really good decisions when it comes to the future development of bills,” said Will Israel, executive director of...
The answer may vary based on the specifics of the forest or region, so this will be a bit general.
Foresters are generally not on probation as they have usually worked their way up. However, timber crews are entry level and were mostly or completely made up of probationary employees (recent...
@rjthehunter
One more time for you, the probationary employees from land management agencies that were fired were the field going folks. These are mostly gs4 and gs5s that work 6 to 9 months of the year. There's a few gs7s in there too. The vast majority of these people are public facing...
For folks not reading the articles posted, this excerpt should be concerning, even if you aren't worried about the trails and rivers.
"Bobby Oshaben, a former forestry technician, called the mass terminations reckless and said the Trump administration’s assertion that cuts would improve...
Only replying here as this is the most recent comment on the topic of quantification.
https://headwaterseconomics.org/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation-in-new-mexicos-cibola-and-mckinley-counties/
From the Headwater Economics' analysis, they modeled the following estimates from 110,000...
30 years of permanent service (no temporary seasonal work count toward retirement) and age of 57 is needed to qualify for retirement (for non fire or LEO positions) for those born after 1970. There's a whole lot more that goes into calculating the actual annuity but that's for another thread...
Seems like an actual question, not a hypothetical, so I'll give it a shot keeping in mind the request to keep this non-political. I can try to go into details on specific points if needed.
- This is the career these employees have worked toward for years (school and years of temporary seasonal...